Fractured Angelics e - course Gathering

Just wanted to say hi and see how everyone is doing in the class?

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Beautiful website

Wow Kate your website is beautiful! I'm MIA I know but the bee is still buzzing about. Doing house projects. Hope to have an art area set up for good in late fall. And then I will finish what I started and start what I haven't started yet. I love your work and classes !

Prepping panels

Hi Kate, i just started this course last week and have started prepping with spackle and collage and texture. my question is: do you gesso the panel first before starting to paint or leave the dried spackle surface alone? it seems very delicate- is the venecian plaster less delicate or have a harder finish? Love love love this class- this is really stretching my skills, but so excited!

Hello.....the spackling is

Hello.....the spackling is not the same as joint compound or venetian plaster. The spackling paste is much more brittle than the joint compound so do make that change. Venetian plaster is different from joint compound because it does have some acrylic in it and therefore a little bit stronger but I have been using the joint compound for this process because it is easier to purchase and I do like it. I got the spackling paste by mistake once and wondered why it was so brittle so understand the confusion. I think you will find the j-compound much easier to work with. You can gesso the board but not necessary. Do you have a sander? The sanding makes the surface really nice and really helps to imbed the plaster into the wood. Are you in the Facebook group for this class?
I am glad you are liking the process!

Thank you- that makes sense.

Thank you- that makes sense. i have been hand sanding since the spackle is so soft and it looks wonderful so far. i love to try new things so this is great- play time before my re-inkers arrive!

Make sure you seal the

Make sure you seal the plaster with gesso and matte medium before using the reinkers because that surface is really porous....I love making backgrounds this way. It is stressfree and fun!

Gesso

Hi - I came here because I'm confused about when to add the gesso. So far I've done three layers of joint compound [the third with stencils], all sanded. Do I add gesso now before collaging and starting to sketch? I'm assuming so since I won't want to gesso over those, right? Or am I mixing up the techniques..?

I LOVE working with this process and am SO looking forward to the rest of it.

btw - I found a large piece of scrap wood at Lowes which The Wood Guy cut down to nine 15x16" pieces for me for only $10!!

Thank you for this wonderful class!!

Hi, How would it work mixing Plaster mixed with white gesso? I did that with a different class.

That should work but I rather just use the joint compound

I like just using joint compound because it is already premixed.

substrates

Hi Kate, just getting started with the class. Most likely won't get started painting till the weekend of work, also bc I haven't received my reinkers from Joanns yet. So for now will just enjoy th videos and sketch a lot :) I have a question regarding the substrate. I know in this class you're using wood panel, but I have quite several yards of unprimed #8 cotton canvas as well as thick muslin. Can I use those supports instead? Also, do Tim Holtz Distress reinkers work ad well? Last but not least, does the joint compound really work as well as the Venetian plaster? I can find both easily but the joint compound is a lot cheaper, so I was wondering if I can economize on that or is it going to turn out to be false economy in the long run? I guess that's it for now. Thanks and have a lovely day.

Substrates

Yes, you can use the canvas on some of the work. The reason I like the wood is because I put a pretty thick layer of joint compound on them and then I like to use an electric sander to really embed it in. Not sure how the canvas will stand up to that, but you could use the canvas on pieces you don't plan to sand. The joint compound is fine. I think they both run about the same price but the Venetian plaster by Behr only comes in big containers whereas the joint compound you can purchase in smaller containers. If you really love the process, you may want to invest in the big container of venetian plaster next time.
You can absolutely use the Tim Holtz distress inks because they are water activating and work the same way as the reinkers.

Stencils

Hi Kate, another question. In the videos you mentioned links to the stencils you used but I can't find the links. Where can I find it please?

Fractured Angel Class

I cannot remember the password for this class...I have been away and looks like everything has changed. Can you help me? Thanks Golda

password

Golda, send me an email and I will send it to you
fracturedangelics@hotmail.com

Wood panels

Hi Kate,
I'm so glad I signed up for this class!! So far I've just been watching the videos but can't wait to get started painting! I was wondering if you could provide a link or if you have any suggestions where to get the wood panels. I had couple of small 8x10 very thin wood panels. I covered one with joint compound couple of nights ago but after it dried, it had buckled a bit. any suggestions would be much appreciated. thanks!!

password

can't find the password

Did you get my email?

I sent out email with all the links and passwords. Did you get it?

re inkers

Hello, The link to Jo Anns only has one or two of the colors mentioned. I am attempting to find them elsewhere but I am having difficulty. On the ranger site it seems they have pigment re inkers and dye re inkers. Can you tell me which I want please. I am so anxious to get my supplies and to start.
Gina

Get the dye re inkers

Here are two places you can probably find re-inkers
http://www.donnadowney.com/ink-pads-sprays/adirondack-dye-reinker-1-ounc...
http://randomartsnow.com/
You could call Random Arts, I teach there and I know she has my colors.

Sealing the Paintings

hi Kate,

I have so enjoyed watching you paint on these videos! So excited to be taking your courses.

I may have missed it if you addressed this, but do you seal or varnish your finished paintings? Wasn't sure if you needed to with the plaster. If so, what do you use?

Am getting an electric sander ASAP! That looks like fun! ;)

Thank you!

Yes I do seal

I seal with either mini wax polycrylic protective finish
Or cold wax by Dorland. Yes, the electric sander is everything!

Quick Sketches Video - Angel Images

Hello:

In the Quick Sketches video, you mention that we can use your images for the sketches.

Are these images in a certain place on the site? Or are these images in the recommended Angels book? I did order that book.

Thanks, Darlene

You can find all of my images on my pinterest board

Angel Images

Thank You So Much Kate!

Image transfer

Firstly let me say thank you! This is completely awesome. I have only watched the first couple of videos so far. I am having trouble getting hold of the re-inkers in my part of the world, but I am adapting what I have too. Please can you tell me if you can do image transfers with ink jet prints? or do they have to be laser prints? I would welcome any advice.

Ink Jet prints

Hi Angeline, Glad you are enjoying the class! Yes, you can do transfers with inkjet printers....some prints if they are dark may bleed a little bit but that can always add some mystery to your piece. Don't worry about the re-inkers, you can use quin. nickel azo gold and paynes gray together( I use Golden open acrylics) and you use that combination. It is similar to pesto re-inker. I am leaning more and more on acrylics rather than the reinkers. The open are great because they give you more time to dry.

Thank you so much! I have got

Thank you so much! I have got a couple of reinkers in different colours and got me some nickel azo gold and paynes grey. My dad gave me an old electric sander, yay, and I tracked down joint compound too. Today I will be adding the first layer to my wood panel, very exiting. This is one of the best courses I have ever done, completely awesome!

Thank you Angeline!

I hope you posts some pics in the Facebook group!

Are alcohol inks the same as

Are alcohol inks the same as reinkers?

Cathy, they are not the same as the re-inkers.

The re-nkers are reactivated with water whereas the alcohol inks are not and very permanent.

Judy Downie if you see this please contact me.

Hi Judy you sent me a payment for this class but the email address given keeps bouncing back to me. Please email so I can get you into class....thanks...kate

FB Group for F. Angelics e-course

Kate: I am signed up for the F. Angelics e-course and submitted a request to be accepted into the FB Group for it. For some reason, I was accepted into a group called "Collage Artists of America". I see that my request for Angelics is "Pending". Should I just wait and stay in the Collage Artists Group until I'm accepted into Angelics? Or get out of that group. This is sort of strange. Thank You, Judy Check

Judy, I got you in!

Just approved

password

Hi, I just purchased the class but cannot find the password to start the first video. Can you help me?

Did you get into the class?

Please send me your email address and I will send the links and password. Didn't you get an email from me with all that info? If not email me and I will resend it.

How long to we have access

How long do we have access to on line class

Thanx
PUFF

Hi Puff

You have lifetime access to all the classes as well as downloading the videos.

Sanding The Background

I am a bit confused as to why we are sanding the background after making textures. How far down are we sanding? How much of the texture from the stencils should be visible, etc.

How do you download the videos?

Just wondering how we download the vids?

Hi Paulissa

The reason I sand some of the plaster down is to embed it more into the substrate. When you put the plaster down there are some ridges and bumps, I like to sand those down a bit. I do sand down some of the stencil area. Try a little area and see if you like it. It just makes the texture and surface a little more mysterious and I like the feel and smoothness. It also takes paint better. As far as downloading the videos, just click on where it says Vimeo on the videos in the classroom room. It will then take you to the Vimeo website where you can view the video there. Underneath the video there are 4 gray tabs. The last one says download. Click on that and it will give you a couple of options as to size to download.

Video passwords

I can't find the video passwords anywhere. I went back through all the emails when I registered for this class and no password, could you please send me a password so I can access the videos? Thanks a bunch!!!

Please email me for all the information.

You should have received an email with all the links and password. It may be in your junk mail. Please send me an email at this address and I will send it out. Here is my email address:
fracturedangelics@hotmail.com

fractured angel

Just watched the videos and I am excited to give this a try. Several questions arose for me.
1. In the videos it looks like you are painting on very thin wood and not a cradled wood panel. Where did you get it and what is it called, how thick is it, and will you frame this?
2. When I am finished and want to seal with varnish (Miniwax polycrylic) brush on varnish, will I need to spray fix any pencil marks, inktense pencils, charcoal, or transfers before using the varnish? The varnish is waterbased I am wondering if it will make mediums run?
3. I have some DAP custom flexible Pro Grade Elastomeric patching compound. Says it won't shrink or crack. Have you ever tried that?
4. If I want to try joint compound on a canvas, should I gesso first?
5. Is it necessary to sand wood prior to applying joint compound?
6. What grit sandpaper do you use to sand plaster?

Hi Peg

Thank you and here are your answers
1. I bought wood at a Home Depot or some place like that and have the wood cut down to size. It is about 1/4" thick. Yes I do frame them by having a frame around them but not use glass.
2. I would spray the areas where there is mediums that will smear. I usually put a light layer on first rather than one thick layer.
3. I don't know about the patching compound. I know spackling paste does not work...it is extremely brittle. Try what you have and test it out.
4.I would gesso the canvas first and then apply the compound and make sure to seal everything with a fluid medium so it will give you a good surface to paint on.\
5. No need to sand wood before the compound.
6. 100 grit is the normal size

Answered questions

Thanks Kate! I'm off to the studio to enjoy some plaster fun!

question about reinkers

I do not have any reinkers, but have Jim Holtz distress Stain in some of those colors and also have adirondack color wash spray (which I know will reactivate in water) and some dylusions spray ink (that also reactivates). Would any or all of those work instead of what you are asking for? I have all the right colors this way, except for the black soot...but do have a ground coffee color which is a dark brown.

Hi Terry

All those colors will work Terry. I am doing some more research. I ordered Tsukinek walnut inks that I think will be really great to use. I ordered some and once I get them I will post the results.

reinkers

So, is the distress stain the same type of ink too?

Yes it is Terry because it is reactivated with water

They work the same way.

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